Curse

Rellok · Jul 12, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

The thing about eating is, it will only take a person a good 5-10 minutes to eat. If my food is ready and it's getting cold, then who cares about your game or my game? If the game takes so much importance in your life as to have it attempt to damage your kidneys, starve or dishearten you, what's the point of playing it?

Not waiting on other people is selfishness and impatience.

If I'm in Fissure of Woe and we have been playing for an hour and I want to eat, then I'm going to eat.

No, I think that expecting 7 other people to wait 5-10 minutes for you to eat is selfish. You are being inconsiderate with their time. If they only have an hour to play at a given time, and you waste 10 minutes of that, you have cost them 1/6 of their time to play. If you have to leave, why should the whole group pay for it? And if everyone did that, pretty soon the first guy can't even finish the mission in the hour he or she has to play.

And who can't hold a normal bathroom break in? My parents drove us around on trips when we were kids, and if every one of us had the attitude that you did about bathroom breaks, we would have never made it anywhere. I had a friend once who was playing touch football. After a play he was laying on the ground in the corner of the endzone whining, "Oooohhh, my kidney." We all had a good chuckle, and he resumed play realizing his simple side ache from running the length of the field.

Matt

Thanas · Jul 13, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by MuKen

I once got caught up in traffic getting to a group meeting for a final project, and ended up getting there maybe ~20 minutes late. The whole time I was omw, I felt really bad about holding things up (even though I couldn't have anticipated the traffic). When I got there, there was a post-it saying they'd waited about 10 minutes and then gone off to a conference room to work in. When I finally caught up, they said pretty much the same thing "sup, how you doing, welcome to the group".

It didn't change the fact that I felt like an ass for making 3 people waste 10 minutes waiting around for me. The fact that they were very nice and understanding about my delay made me feel worse about what I'd done, not better. Making 7 people waste 10 minutes waiting around before finally giving up and going on without me would make me feel even worse than that, especially if it was something I could have anticipated.

Thats your perogotive mate. Your the one worrying. They are not. You are creating problems that don't exist and over complicating the situation.

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Originally Posted by MuKen

I really don't understand how you can shrug stuff like that off so easily, and then imply if those people hadn't been totally good-natured about it they would be "ridiculously impatient".

I can shrug it off quite easily because the team do. I didnt say that not being good-natured equates to riduclouly impatient. However it is quite likely that somebody of poor temperament will be impatient and complain.

Thanas · Jul 13, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Rellok

No, I think that expecting 7 other people to wait 5-10 minutes for you to eat is selfish. You are being inconsiderate with their time. If they only have an hour to play at a given time, and you waste 10 minutes of that, you have cost them 1/6 of their time to play.

I have completed missions with far less than a full team. So who cares if somones eating. Let them. I've had it happen to me and I'm like "so what?". For me it makes completing the mission all the more fun, cause I know it took skill to complete it. Always turn a potentially bad situation into a good one.

Hyperious Satanicus · Jul 13, 2005, 12:11 AM // 00:11

As a 20th lvl Mo/Necro I have no problems getting into games. As soon as I do, I make it very clear. If one person AFK then all AFK and we wait. If not I say c'ya... Im not going to waste my time with these idiots. Eat your damn McDonalds on your time, not mine.

MuKen · Jul 13, 2005, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Thanas

I can shrug it off quite easily because the team do. I didnt say that not being good-natured equates to riduclouly impatient. However it is quite likely that somebody of poor temperament will be impatient and complain.

Ok, lemme try tackling this from a different direction: let's try to find a common ground and work from there. On the one end of the spectrum, we have this real situation: Player A is in a group with some random strangers. Halfway through a mission, he stops for 15 minutes to eat, the other players wait about 10 minutes for him before deciding to continue without him. My opinion is that it's rude of Player A to do this, yours is that it's not, so we are in disagreement.

Let's put on the other end of the spectrum this hypothetical situation: Player A is playing GW. He stops for 15 minutes to eat, but GW has a rule that every time you do this, seven random other players who don't even know you get their games frozen for 10 minutes. This I'm sure is a situation where we can both agree it would be rude of Player A to play GW when he knows he's going to eat later and that it's gonna freeze lots of other people.

Now I'm going to try to flesh out some situations in between these two points, and you tell me in which ones you believe Player A is not considered rude. Obviously IMO he is rude in all of them, I just want to know how far along the spectrum you agree with me before our opinions diverge, and we can work from there.

1) Player A logs on to GW. Before he can leave town, he must find seven other players who agree to be linked to him. They don't have to play with each other, but for the remainder of the gaming session if one of them takes a food break, the others are frozen for 10 minutes.

2) Player A logs on to GW. If he takes a food break, seven other random players receive reduced exp and drops for 10 minutes, and all their battles become slightly harder.

3) Player A logs on to GW. Before he can leave town, he must find seven other players who agree to be linked to him. They don't have to play with each other, but for the remainder of the gaming session if one of them takes a food break, the others receive reduced exp and drops, and all battles become slightly harder.

DeFi · Jul 13, 2005, 03:32 AM // 03:32

So you get to do what you want (eating) and they also can do what they want (leaving)

Nobdy will win this discussion. Get over it.....

Mister Pie · Jul 13, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

isn't the entire argument for most people here that we need to be more understanding of other poeples needs and desires....all I see in that argument is "me" "my hour" "my time" MY this MY that...how is that any different than the person that doesn't care about your hour of time...ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS YOUR HOUR OF TIME.

As well as the time of the six other people who are in the game. If one person goes, they're putting their time ahead of everyone else's. Your point is completely off track.

Yeah, I personally think it's a bit extreme to say no bathroom breaks whatsoever, but what if someone wants to take 30 minutes for dinner? Yeah, the rest of the team can try to move on, but when we die, the camera is just gonna center on the AFK guy and we're all forced to sit there while waiting for that person to come back.